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She went through 9 rounds of IVF over the course of 6 years. Even after her doctors advised her to use donor eggs, she had a feeling that she could do this naturally. Watch this incredible story to hear how she brought her healthy baby home against all odds! 

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Aimee (00:02):

Hi everyone. Thank you so much. I'm already going to start crying on this one again, this is Faustyna and you and I started working together. I just had your chart up. I met you and you were 36 years old and it was December, 2020. I'll just do a quick summary and we'll get into it. You came to me, you had been doing acupuncture since 2018. You were doing all the things. You were doing therapy, support groups, yoga, meditation. You did nutrition counseling, fertility coaching with another fertility coach, gratitude visualization. You reduced exposures to environmental toxins. So when she came to me, she was had already done, I would say a lot. Your diagnosis at the time, low A MH was 0.8. FSH was a nine. So I didn't think that was terribly low, but maybe for your age, I think that would be considered pretty low in the US too.

(01:14):

Poor responder, poor egg quality. She was told she needed donor eggs. Hashimoto's, potentially somebody had picked up that maybe you had endometriosis, right? Because you had the elevated NK cells and some of the pro-inflammatory cytokines, TNF alpha dysbiosis, you had some stomach stuff. And at the point when we met, you had had 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 IVFs and let's see, 1, 2, 3 rendered no embryos, right? One you transferred two day twos and you had a blighted ovum, and then that was 2019. Then in the IVFs in 2020 you got no eggs, you were overstimulated. And then in August of 2024 eggs, you transferred one three day embryo. The other two embryos did not make it to blast and you did not get pregnant. And you weren't taking anything for pregnancies, like no baby aspirin, no, nothing like that. And at the time you were on omega threes, vitamin D, probiotic, poq, 10 B, vitamin methylfolate, zinc, some herbs. But I remember, and you were doing Kundalini yoga seven days a week and I think, I don't know, I feel like now you share some, I mean if you can go back to that period of time, so it's 2020, right? You've already been in this now two years, six failed IVFs and Yeah, I dunno. Go ahead. Share some stuff.

Faustyna (03:09):

Yeah. Well, generally we started in 2017, so it was like six years, quite a tough journey. So we started when I was 32 and quite quickly we went to fertility clinic. I lost my period. So I was like, okay, so let's just do all necessary testing, just not to waste our time. So quite quickly I knew that I had low IMH and well the doctors, everyone was like, oh, you need to rush. You are already 32, it's already too late. Then I lost again, period for a couple of months. What do you think was

Aimee (03:52):

Going on with the period? Was it I feel like I underweight not eating enough, right?

Faustyna (03:57):

That was the

Aimee (03:58):

Biggest thing I did with you.

Faustyna (03:59):

Yeah, yeah, that's correct. So it was really about weight. I was too skinny. My BMI was below 19, so definitely my hormones. Hormones were completely unbalanced. So that was the problem. And so when I lost again, oops, I have problem with it's, so when I lost my period again, I was retested with IMH and it was even lower. So at the time it was like 0.3.

Aimee (04:29):

Yeah,

Faustyna (04:30):

I remember it dropped and it was just a disaster because at the time I was said, okay, this is like pma, ovarian failure, you'll enter into menopause in several months. So it was really a shock. I was 32 and I thought, well, I have still 18 or 20 years to be in menopause. So it was really a shock. It was really shocking. So we were rushed to do IVF and we did it. So it was like doing IV F1 after another and with no preparation because no one explained anything was really happening. Everyone, all the doctors said, well, you just need to do IV because this is the only option and actually the best would be to go directly to donor X. So yeah, that was really difficult. So at the time I really needed support of psychology, so I spent a lot of time finding really a good therapist and definitely it helped me. But this emotional piece, it really had a big impact on my journey because just from the start I thought, okay, there is nothing. There is nothing you can do. You can just do IVF, but the likelihood is really minor. So yeah, this is just a waste of time. That was some kind of conclusion out of many consultations.

Aimee (06:04):

Tell me, right before we went to record, you said to me, I'll never forget when you were leaving the IVS clinic and what the doctor said to you.

Faustyna (06:12):

Yeah, so it was during the last visit, it was like, it's a waste of money, it's a waste of time. Well just go for egg donation. Well, which is of course a brilliant option, but I was not ready to do it. And really my intuition was that it may happen, but we just need to do it in a different way.

Aimee (06:42):

And then when we started working together, so I remember one of the first things was I, your diet. I feel like that was a big shift for us where I'll run through kind of what you were eating. She was doing oatmeal and you had some good stuff in there, the chia and the seeds and the nut butter and the super foods, coconut yogurt, but not a lot of protein. And then she was doing vegetable stews, gluten-free grains, legumes, once or twice a week or once per two weeks, sorry, you'd have smoked salmon or cod, organic chicken, Turkey once per three weeks and then dark chocolate and then dinner would be eggs or the smoked salmon vegetables. So anyway, I would classify you as you were more vegetarian than not. And I have no opposition to vegetarians. I was one myself at one point in time, but in a situation like this, I'm trying to move my screen, sorry, it didn't seem like it was working for you, right? It was like,

Faustyna (07:54):

Okay,

Aimee (07:55):

So

Faustyna (07:56):

Go ahead. I think that it really made a big difference When I introduced more proteins, I started to see that my cycle is really better, so my hormone levels were better. So that was also a bit, I was like, okay, it gave me more confidence because when I saw that my cycle is improving despite getting older, I was really more confident that we can do something about my hormones. So it was really a big difference.

Aimee (08:33):

And even still too, you came to me. I mean the other thing too that with your case, and you had done a lot of additional testing already at that point you had looked because you had Hashimoto's and you had some iron and ferritin issues that I think you were pretty on top of. But she had also, you looked into some of the clotting factor stuff. M-T-H-F-R, you had already looked getting diagnosed for celiac, the cure PI one, right? So there was a lot that had already kind of been looked into. And like I said, she'd been working with some other people, but you still weren't feeling good. You had ear aches, skin problems, dry mouth indigestion, stomach ache, bloating, chy, mood swings, low libido, irritability, dry mouth during the day. Yeah, your cycle was irregular. And so I remember we talked through, I was like, okay, can we add collagen peptides to the oatmeal?

(09:27):

Can we add bone broth to the Dews? Can we get two eggs in a day? Increased fish to three to four times a week. She also noticed, this was something interesting too. When I was reviewing your case before that, at one point before you worked with me, you had gone gluten-free and you went too low carb and you lost your period. So for me then working with fina, I was like, okay, we got to make sure we always have good carbs in her diet. We're not going to lose the period again. And we never lost the period again except for we will get to those, some of the pregnancies.

(10:00):

And you did it, I said, add avocado and half a one a day, keep doing your ghee, add fish and eggs to dinner, keeping the grains even if you have fermented rye, tahini, stay away from dairy and gluten except for the fermented rye because you felt okay on that. And I also just did not want you. And at the time your cycles were 27 to 55 days, your follicular phase would be really delayed. And then one and a half years ago when we first met in 2020, you had said you were vegan and your cycles got longer, so you kind of lost your cycles again. And then on the vegan diet, she felt okay, but the cycle got longer. And then so that was kind of where we started. Then we did some food diaries. I was reading through all these, and I remember when you added in more fat, remember it was hard for your buddy to digest.

Faustyna (10:53):

Yes, I remember that.

Aimee (10:54):

I think then we added, I was really frustrated. Yeah, you were so frustrated. So what did we do? We added in enzymes. I can't remember. Or did we cut back on some of the fat? I can't remember. Let me see. But either way. So we worked on diet first of all, and some of the things too, I wanted to, let's see. And then, so by the time, let's see, about a two months later, your last two cycles, 36, 37 days. So you were getting more regular cycles. So one of the things, oh, right, you were doing the reboot with me at the time too. And so some of your limiting beliefs, like the irregular cycles, other women with a MH like mine, but they didn't have irregular cycles. And so I helped you shift it. My MH is good and other women can get pregnant with his A MH.

(11:51):

So I'm not worried about it. Not worried. We need to rush to IVF. Irregular cycles delayed ovulation worries me. Women with irregular cycles can't get pregnant. So your biggest worry was your follicular phase. And so we focused on healthy, good ovulation journaling, dietary changes, and we had a lot of, I feel ease with my diet. I feel ease with my supplements. I feel ease with movement. We shifted your focus to I feel ease with my morning practice. I feel ease with all these things I'm doing. I feel ease with IVF meds because that worked for other women in the same boat. And then I was really pushing for more immune testing too because of the Hashimoto's.

(12:32):

And let's see that, I know I'm going backwards in our thing, but we've revisited your red flags. They were getting better. Your antibodies were high, your thyroid antibodies were 1 93 and 2 86. Homocysteine was decent, 7.8, 8.6, but a little higher than we wanted. And you had your Mira, you were doing that. Let's see. So then you went into, this is February, 2021, you went into another IVF three eggs retrieve, we'll wait to see about fertilization. We'll do a day five transfer. Never done that before. And let's see. And so then what happens there? Then you met with a reproductive immunologist over there, right? Or was it part of the fertility clinic you were working with? I can't remember that part.

Faustyna (13:34):

That was already at the time. I think that when we started with immunologist, it was probably five years ago. So it was quite a long journey with immunologists as well. But the problem is that each time I got the same medication, yeah,

Aimee (13:55):

They didn't change it at all.

Faustyna (13:57):

The problem is that here, well in Poland in my country, there are some limited doctors in the field. So still this is really a field which is questioned a lot by fertility clinics. So that's also a problem. And there are some limitations when it comes to access to testing. So it's changed over time because actually after miscarriage in 22, I could do some extra testing. They allowed it and then it turned out that I need IVIG. But that was also a problem that there is very limited number of doctors here who specialize in the

Aimee (14:43):

Field. So at the time you were about to do this transfer, you were doing Neupogen, right? That's correct. And you were doing steroids, a blood thinner aspirin. Yeah. And then progesterone, estradiol, right? All the things magnesium that was, yeah, 5 19, 20 21. And do you remember, did you get pregnant with that transfer? I don't remember.

Faustyna (15:23):

Yes. During this transfer we had twin pregnancy. That was the twin, unfortunately. Yeah, unfortunately we lost it at eight weeks. So with it genetic testing, it turned out that both normal nbis were normal.

Aimee (15:39):

And that's when I think we kind of upped the ante even more on the immunology piece. And then at that point too, you had also done the mini IVFs in June and July. You wound up with zero blasts, got three eggs, but no blasts. It stopped growing. It was a complete disaster. What you had said to me, and we talked about not doing medipure, and so at that point it was 2022, September, five years, nine egg retrievals. And then we talked about you switching from IVF. Since we then, at this point, I think we're right, because at this point now by 2022, you had that one pregnancy before you met me that you miscarried in those six IVFs, and then you had the pregnancy with the twins, and we knew that they were genetically normal. And was that the day three fresh transfer or the day five transfer?

Faustyna (16:36):

It was day five. It was day five, fresh.

Aimee (16:40):

And so at that point, now we tested and now we knew, okay, both were actually normal. So she had two babies that she made normal and she miscarries at eight weeks. So there's something else going on from an immunological perspective. There just has to be. And then we talked about the idea. I think you were so done with IVF. I remember saying to, well, I wrote it here. We talked about timed intercourse. Her impression is her body is doing much better without any meds. And you were really in a state of shock with that mini IVF that it didn't work. And it was like you couldn't believe it didn't work for you. But then you also said to me, and this was September 19th, 2022, I now believe it can happen naturally.

Faustyna (17:25):

Before that, we had also natural chemical pregnancies. So I thought, okay, something changed in my body and we can do it. You guys

Aimee (17:33):

Were on a trip, you went to Iceland or something, weren't you on a trip and you got a had a

Faustyna (17:38):

Yes, yes. It was Iceland or maybe protocol. I don't remember right now, all the track. But actually I remember our conversation because I was really done with IVF. I was like, when I left the last clinic, it was actually the doctor who said, it's a waste of time. It's a waste of money. Just go for donor X and just close the journey successfully. And then I was, okay, let's stop it. I cannot do it. And longer, but honestly, nine egg retrievals, this is really, when I think about it, this is well, how it was possible to do it. So many times I cannot. Well, I'm just wondering. Yeah, I did it. But the point is, I remember the conversation. You were encouraged to start with climate, and I was like, well, but how it could happen. We did so many ideas and it was not successful and just taking several pills and it would work. And then I talked to my husband and we're like, okay, let's do it. And the funny thing is, we did it for the first time and it worked.

Aimee (18:49):

You got a chemical pregnancy?

Faustyna (18:50):

No, it was a pregnancy that we lost at nine weeks. And again, it was normal. Normal,

Aimee (19:00):

That's right.

Faustyna (19:00):

So well, during this time I was like, well, there must be something about immunology. It cannot be that each time we have normal embryos and we are losing pregnancies. There must be something else. Because actually during this pregnancy, I also was on some blood thin. You were on the whole protocol, baby aspirin. Yeah, exactly. I had even metformin. So it was really plenty of drugs. And again, it didn't work out. So it was, yeah, I was completely disheartened.

Aimee (19:38):

And I also think important to point out again, before she comes from 2018 to 2026, IVFs, I think three got to transfer. She couldn't get blasts. We didn't get any tested blast or normals. That was never what you could get to.

(20:00):

And then fast forward to now, then we started getting, well, we did the day three or the day five fresh transfer with the twins, and then we know they're normal, and then she gets pregnant again with the Clomid and the trigger, and we miscarry again, and we know it's normal. Then you had a chemical in there before the twins. After the twins, it was after they both locked it out. It was like, what the fuck? It was hard. But then the confidence starts to build in this sense of like, okay, these people said, I could never do this. I have to move to donor. I'm actually now getting pregnant. And it's interesting. She's getting older. Her numbers technically got worse. At one point, I think then we had PTD, we stopped testing, and then now she's getting pregnant miscarrying and we're testing and they're normal.

(20:56):

So it's like the timeline is, I think, very interesting. And I want everybody to really understand that too, that at 32, 33, 34, she's having zero success with IVF, not getting any blast. Then 35, 36, okay, now we're starting to get pregnant actually. And now we're having healthy, we're losing healthy children. So yeah, then you wind up. So who finally says, let's throw in the IVIG. I can't remember that part. We were just, you were in our group. I know the IVIG had come up. It was just like, okay, we've tried everything else. Let's try the IVIG. Was it hard for you to get, I don't remember that part.

Faustyna (21:39):

It was not easy. But actually it was your recommendation. So I just follow it. I knew that when I will be pregnant for the next time, I will just do it. And actually, the funny thing is that I had some consultation and I really felt that I got pregnant. So it was very early stage, and I remember that I was driving to the consultation and I thought, okay, I'm pregnant. And I was like, well, I'm sure that in couple of days I will need to do this infusion. So everything was really prepared. So when I really learned that I'm pregnant, I already knew that I have to go at a certain place. So it took a while to get it because I took it, it was already start of week five, and one of the doctors said, well, it's already too late. You should do it before ovulation. But well, anyhow, we just did it. And then we repeated four times and well, it was successful.

Aimee (22:42):

And then, yeah, so it's like, I mean, you guys hear a baby crying in the background, so yeah, let's share that. Oh, are you there? Did I lose her? I'm going to wait and say let her come back in. I'm recording. Yeah, she'll just come back in. Other things I want to add is this whole time she's on Chinese herbs, she's on her organ meat supplements. She's now a full-blown non-vegan vegetarian. And so I think all of those things too. Her red flag symptoms, her iron levels, all of her things are improving over time. And I just want to see, I don't want to miss her coming back into the, and so I'm looking through our emails right now and I'm going to read to you guys. So, oh, is this, here we go. She's back. Okay.

(23:48):

Hi. I knew you'd come back. I knew you'd be back. I just kept talking. I was adding during this time, remember we had you on the herbs. I was shipping our curves, we were shipping you all the things. It's all good. So I was reading through emails. So let me read everyone the email that you send me because that's the best. So this is all 2022. And then, yeah, you emailed me November 20, November 8th, 2022. You got all your herbs and your medicines from me. And then February, I hear from you or getting you on more herbs. Oh, that's right. You were in New York, remember? And I sent them, it was my husband actually.

Faustyna (24:36):

I was supposed to,

Aimee (24:37):

That's right,

Faustyna (24:37):

Your husband, you were supposed to come. I was already pregnant. So I was like, okay, so I'm not going to, she

Aimee (24:47):

Doesn't tell me she's pregnant. That's the clincher I think I didn't know. And then September, 2023, because she'd had these losses and I think you were also just like, I've been in this path before. I'm not talking about this.

Faustyna (25:00):

I was really scared. I was really scared to tell about it. Even my parents, they learned pretty late. I was really

Aimee (25:08):

Scared. You just emailed me on September 28th, 2023. And mind you, yeah, we had been emailing and communicating. It's been a while since we were in contact. I think it had been since maybe March or something like that. So it'd been like six months. And she says, I'm now 28 weeks pregnant with a healthy miracle baby girl. This is so real and so unreal. We got pregnant with Clomid and Trigger, and it actually was our second try with these drugs and second natural pregnancy on this protocol. We followed your recommendation. I still remember you saying you have nothing to lose by taking. It's so unbelievable, especially that we went through nine IVFs and the last two did not even yield any blasts. And the doctor said the only option was donor eggs. This time we revised our immune protocol, we added IVIG on top of the heparin baby aspirin, Neupogen, Metformin, steroids. I think that was it. It was not easy and it cost a fortune. But finally we did four infusions and it seems it was our miracle medication. I cannot express any words, my gratitude to you. Yeah. Anyway. And then here you, you had your baby girl in December, right? So we're four months old now. Now,

Faustyna (26:25):

Yeah. It's three weeks, three months and a half. Yeah. I still cannot believe it really after it. It's really unbelievable that after so many IVFs, after so many years, it just happened. I would say in a simply way it's, it's really difficult to say something. You cannot just express how it feels. It was really worth await for this miracle. Aw.

Aimee (27:06):

And I think too, or maybe you can speak to this too now, in retrospect of you had an instinct you knew in your heart, and again, like you said before, donor eggs aren't, embryos is a brilliant option. It didn't resonate with you at this time, right? You were like, I still feel like this is possible. I don't know, speak to that some because that was what kept you going. I mean, what did keep you going I guess is another question.

Faustyna (27:35):

I think what really helped me that actually, what is really important I think, is to have at least one person who believes in you. And the coaching session we had, it was our sixth coaching session. I was checking all the records, so it was November 22. And it really helped me because at the time you said, well,

Aimee (27:58):

We can't

Faustyna (27:58):

Hear you. I believe that it may happen. Is it okay now?

Aimee (28:02):

Yeah, yeah.

Faustyna (28:04):

So it really made a huge difference because at the time I was like, I knew that I'm not going to enter any fertility clinic. And I knew, I was like, okay, I accept whatever happens I accepted. So it was also a lot about acceptance. And probably for the first time I was like, okay, if this is not happening, it'll not be my biologic baby. That's fine, but I'm not ready yet to move to donor X and let's see what happens. So it was a lot about acceptance, but at the same time, it's really important to have someone who believes in you. So this coaching session, it really helped me to,

Aimee (28:52):

And I think the community too, you were very active in the community and sharing. And that part where just seeing other women going through it with you, it's like a tribe. And just knowing you have a place to go to ask questions and listen. Even some of those immunological treatments, it's like even where I learn half of my stuff is from the girls who are like, oh, my doctor said let's try this, or I tried this and it finally worked. IVIG was a hot topic. I remember in our group at the time, because there was another one before you who was in Australia, I won't say her name, but same thing. She kept having losses and would get pregnant naturally. And it was so hard for her to get the immunology. And then she was able to get the IVIG and she carried a baby boy to term. And it was like, oh, that's fascinating. And so it's almost like, I think being in those circles though, and sharing lifts the shame. I always say that, but if you don't share, you don't get to hear other people's stories or insight. I mean, that's a huge reason why I do these stories of hope and they're live for everyone to see. It's like, do your research, get the right doctors, get the right team. Don't take no for an answer. Keep asking questions.

(30:08):

And again, had you gone down the donor route, you would've miscarried a donor egg and donor embryo, you would've miscarried it.

Faustyna (30:15):

I'm

Aimee (30:15):

Sure you would've been back to square one. And I've seen that on my side, which is why I'm not against donor at any point, but I'm also like, did we look under every rock before we moved there? Because you're going to spend a lot of money. And then what if you miscarry them? And I just had a girl to go through it and it's devastating. And so now all of a sudden she's like, oh my gosh, are you kidding me? It, I didn't need the donor egg. This is immunological, isn't it? And I'm like, yeah. Yes, it's, it's devastating. Everybody's on their own path and we all go at our own pace. And even for you, I think you did experience pushback from your doctors about medications and things like that, and you didn't care.

Faustyna (30:58):

Yeah. Now I think that it was really a lot of gaslighting. I think that you call it like gaslighting. That's what it's, yeah. Everyone was like, okay, we can try, but I don't believe that it'll happen.

Aimee (31:13):

And then now that you're on the other side too, and this came up in the story of hope I recorded last week with a similar length of time in history. She was saying too, that time alone with the baby, I think she's a few months at two months out. It's a lot of healing that's going on for her now too. A lot of processing the trauma finally. And you feel that way? Yeah.

Faustyna (31:36):

Yeah. I feel the same way. It's a lot of trauma. So, well, I will remember all those children. It'll not disappear. This is a part of my history. This is a part of my baby. And well, at some point she'll learn about this journey.

(31:57):

It'll require some time to process it, to heal it. It's not an easy topic. And well, when we started the conversation, it's also a lot about to really spend time to tackle all those emotional topics because it will just, even if you are on the other side, if this is not healed, it'll come back. So in my case, it was a lot about self worthiness. And as I mentioned to you, I questioned a lot if at some point just after, I dunno, we were already, it was like my baby, she was like two weeks. And I was like, well, I'm not the best mother. I'm doing this in a wrong way. So it's a lot of questioning. So it's really important to work on the emotional side because even if you are on the other side, it can really, well not maybe kill you, but it'll not help. And this is not an easy, so even if there is a miracle baby, you need also to take care about those points because you need to have a lot of energy for this little baby.

Aimee (33:09):

Well, and that's what I said to you before we started recording, and I was asking her, has she got her thyroid checked and that kind of stuff, being the person I need to be. And you have to, well, you don't have to, but I think it's important to continue to prioritize yourself so you can be the mother you want to be.

Faustyna (33:27):

And

Aimee (33:28):

Then also if you decide you want to do this again, that we want to have everything as prepared as possible. And I always say to my girls too, and please be careful, don't have unprotected sex right now because you are fertile and you were told for years you're not. But you are, you're fertile.

Faustyna (33:48):

But the funny thing is, when I was at my doctor six weeks after labor, she was like, well, now you need to pay attention because you cannot get pregnant. You had c-section. So at least one year. And I was like, really? This is the opposite conversation for six years I've heard that I'll not get pregnant. And now this telling me that it may happen. I was like, seriously, it was so funny. So now I'm fertile.

Aimee (34:20):

Yeah, there you go. That's right. You're fertile. You're on the other side and you also know a protocol that works for you. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think we'll cross that bridge when we get there. And obviously you know where to find us if you need that support, but I also feel like you figured out your protocol, what works for your body from a diet perspective, from a supplement perspective, mindset, medications. It is exciting. I'm just so happy for you. So any final words you want to share with the listeners?

Faustyna (34:58):

What I would say, it'll just follow your intuition and don't let anyone to tell you what is possible and what is not possible. Because everyone, well, all the, let's say doctor community, they were like, well, no, it'll not happen. Forget about it. So it's really important to find a community which is supporting and have someone who's really believing in you because it makes a huge difference. So. Well, I'm so grateful, Amy, that I had you on my journey. I'm really sure that it would not happen without you having in this journey. So thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank

Aimee (35:40):

You so much. I mean, this is the best honor for me when you guys are so willing to come live to the world and share your story, it's like that's how I think we move things forward and that's how we educate and empower. It's like they need to hear it from you guys. You went through hell, this was hell, and it was hard and you came out the other side. So I couldn't be happier. I mean, that's why I do it. And sometimes so too, it's for me, it's obvious almost sometimes where I'm like, okay, this is what needs to happen next. But it's also, you have to agree with what I see and believe it as well. It was like it took us having that chemical. And I remember on that trip for you to be like, oh my God, you are right. I could do this naturally.

(36:26):

I was like, I told you so let's do it. You probably didn't even need the clum and the trigger, but that's fine. You know what I mean? I think it gave you a sense of something like you can control the ovulation. I do think you needed the IVIG and that, but you might not the next time around. The immune system completely shifts in pregnant. We'll see, I don't think if you messaged me in six months from now or 10 months from now and say I'm pregnant, I would tell you to do the exact same protocol just to be safe. You don't need any more losses.

Faustyna (37:00):

Yeah,

Aimee (37:00):

I agree. I would do the same. So now I know what to do. That's it. You got it. You just have your stash of medicine and ready. Oh, well thank you so much and promise me that you'll make sure you take care of you in this process. Okay, baby, baby came through because she chose you as her mama. So you need to be that woman that she saw on the other side before she came through. Okay,

Faustyna (37:27):

Yeah, that's also important. So that's probably another, let's say, conclusion that we really need to take care about what steps when we're on the other side as well. My God, that's even more

Aimee (37:37):

Important. It's more important now. I mean, especially as a role model and as a woman, having a baby girl. I mean, there are just so many things. But also, and you know this too, you lose yourself in this journey. So it's an opportunity to come back to life on all fronts, and that's kind of really nice.

Faustyna (37:57):

Yeah. Yeah. Thanks.

Aimee (37:59):

Alright, well I adore you. Keep me posted on everything and yeah, thank you so much for doing this. I appreciate it so much.

Faustyna (38:08):

Thank you. Thank you so much.

Aimee (38:10):

Okay, enjoy that baby girl.

Faustyna (38:13):

Bye. Thank you so

Aimee (38:14):

Much. You.

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